With other mmos like wow for instance. Grindy yes but, with 1000s of quest, story, different mobs, exp from pvp. Bannerlord is grindy with out that. 10 daily quest 3 of the same mobs. Unless your combat skills are at 200 your at a severe disadvantage in pvp. This game is fun at beginning for pve and a extremely gritty grind to end game so much so it feels like a job which is why server pop is so low i think. Not many people have the patience or time to roll up that 1000hr repetitive boring grind.I don't think I'll make it to the end of the grind. Too bad could be a great game. Hope they fix it eventually.